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| Subject: Re: I am stuck in Peru becuaes of corruption, Migrations and Lan Peru airlines, help!
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Posted on: Tue, 27 Jun 2006 20:34:01 +0000 (UTC)
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I know exactly what you are talking about, Sweet Chiva! I have learned
to avoid the police in Peru. They don't receive a pay check or benefits
like the members of LAPD, so they abuse their authority to get paid! I
know it is a farse here in ambiguous Lima.
I too, have been injured falling on the microbus and combis here.
Shame, it is the only transport system unless you are wealthy to have a
private car, right?
On New Years 2003, I got into a combi from below the the express way to
head to the south beaches and everyone on board was partying, even the
driver y el cobrador had drinks in their hands; I was like damn, where
is my drink? Then some surfer guys starting smoking joints at the back
of the vehicle; nobody cared; it was business as usual. No kidding.
Sweet Chiva wrote:
> Ok angela, I can see that you have been living many years in Lima,
> enough time one can see how the system is messed up...impossible point
> of view for turists-these kind of guys visit museums and "cultural
> places" like old churches, whatever, boring places -that I can see when
> I go walking alone around my city.
>
> Yeah, I prefer walking instead of taking the combi, or the microbus;
> when you are inside, you feel like you are on the way to prison,
> because there is no escape and the kids or old guys with the coins
> keeps saying "come on, get in" to more people on the street. They
> insist, saying that there is space to sit, but then the passengers are
> trapped inside standing with knees bent underneath another person or
> bending along some boxes of used auto parts. The drivers don't seem
> like they have a mother because when ladies are stepping onto the bus,
> they fall down like packages on the floor; The ladies yell, help and
> the kid with the coins (cobrador) says move to the back because they
> are blocking the door for more people to step inside. It just speeds
> off and the ride turns into a race along the street with other combis.
> You feel like a box of matches. Such dignity because you have to pay 2x
> soles on holidays.
> On some holidays everyone is drinking and the disco music is blasting
> full volume! You only pray that you don't die.
>
> OK Lima is a small place, In Miraflores, San Isidro and Surco, or any
> south beaches people speak with a "high class" sounding accent when
> they yell at the maid to walk their pet. On the other side of the city,
> the people all yell like in the middle of a battle field and cars speed
> with no rules.
>
> Then there are a lot of small houses built up the mountains on the city
> edge and they have no electricity, no water, no laws. If you go there,
> they get mad. Don't go there; they will burn you and there is no
> police. Lima is very diverse and ambiguous.
>
> The police will use any pretext to put fault on you, scare you, and
> they try to sell you street drugs, then you are at fault. If you are
> lucky, they ask you to share the beer and it is okay, depending on the
> agreement. But, they are always looking for an opportunity. You must be
> more vigilant, like a spy fly. Rich and poor people are burned in
> ignorance.
> Get the hell out of here, gringa! Get out now!
>
> JohnM wrote:
> > In article <1151268171.408248.128300@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com>,
> > angela l writes
> > >How can the awareness of those "workings" of this newsgroup help me? I
> > >have not shown any condescending attitude to anyone in Peru; I don't
> > >even talk to them, I smile, my friend talks. They don't even tell me
> > >the bad news "that I am denied"; they avoid eye contact with me and
> > >tell the information to my friend like it is the last resort. Seems to
> > >be their way to convince me thay can do absurd things and make demands,
> > >like that letter of appology about my surnames to the director at their
> > >border. Maybe they think I am a nice gringa they can cheat.
> >
> > There is obviously a lot there which you haven't posted but you refer
> > to, for instance what the problem was with your surname that Migrations
> > didn't like.
> >
> > > I
> > >appologize for my sounding so bitter in my writing; it is hard to talk
> > >about all the times I have enjoyed, here on my own account, now that it
> > >is coming to an unhappy ending.
> >
> > Once again, I am sorry about your plight, but I don't think US
> > immigration would be any lighter on a Peruvian who, by some reason or
> > other, had overstayed his or her visa.
> >
> > Yes, you sound very bitter: "The Peruvian police here are nothing but a
> > gang of middle-aged, beer belly, crack addicts terrorizing people on the
> > streets to make money to support their habit (no laws, no rehabilitation
> > here apparently). It is very disfunctional with no order and everyone is
> > trying to make money wrongfully."
> >
> > So I replied that if you are dissing the Peruvian police to their faces
> > the way you are dissing them in this newsgroup you will never get out of
> > the country. Do you think that dissing the LAPD would get a Peruvian
> > anywhere with a complaint in California?
> >
> > > Here I have simply wrote about what I
> > >saw happening most recently (beyond the farse). In the beginning it
> > >seemd like quite a decent place. Now it is terribly bitter, being in an
> > >absurd situation with all these cruel games where I am always the
> > >loser. What do you mean by "cookie", what does that frase mean about
> > >U.S. citizen?
> >
> > In your posts you were also dissing the Peruvian transport system: "They
> > use post-war minivans with Japanese writing (known as
> > "combi" or "micro"), driven by beastly men shouting out the sliding
> > door, with really bad exhaust, improvized seats and they jam pack 20
> > passengers inside (about 8 are not even sitting, just crammed inside
> > like slaves) the shouting man takes the coins and rides hanging outside
> > of the sliding door. There is no dignity and the people have no real
> > public transportation infrastructure."
> >
> > So I pointed out that it is a bit rich to have an American give lectures
> > about public transport infrastructure, ('slaves', 'no dignity') coz
> > basically you have none in your country either from where I'm standing
> > (London, UK).
> >
> > My advice is to check your frustration, because you are beginning to
> > sound like a caricature of an angry gringa abroad and that will not help
> > in your predicament.
> >
> > --
> > JohnM
> > Author of Brazil: Life, Blood, Soul &
> > Rainbow Diary: A Journey in the New South Africa
> > http://www.scroll.demon.co.uk/spaver.htm
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