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Subject: Re: More on the Train to the Clouds, Salta Posted on: Wed, 23 Aug 2006 19:36:32 +0000 (UTC)

Hola Juan:

Voy a aprovechar de la oportunidad a practicar mi castellano, todo
bien? (pero te aviso, soy yanqui y hablo el castellano como el yanqui
que soy ,-)

Despu=E9s de leer lo que escribiste, no estoy seguro de que John lo
malentendiera...quiz=E1s sea una cuesti=F3n de traducci=F3n pero ahora, de
nuevo, lo has insultado un poquitito. Escribiste "It seems John after
visiting just part of Argentina many years ago, feels he is the only
who knows the country." No s=E9 de d=F3nde sacaste esa idea, pero desde
hace mucho que leo este grupo, y lo que escribiste sobre John no tiene
nada que ver con la verdad. La gente viene ac=E1 para encontrar
informaci=F3n sobre tu pa=EDs hermoso, y John es uno de los socios de
este grupo que sabe algo de Argentina. Yo tambi=E9n soy un socio que
s=E9 algo de Argentina...claro que vos, siendo nativo, sab=E9s mucho del
pa=EDs. Juntos, podemos dar buen consejo a los que nos piden, no? No
es un concurso de quien sabe m=E1s de la Argentina!

Adem=E1s, con respeto a la pregunta, John ten=EDa raz=F3n y vos
no...jejejejeje.

Suerte, mi amigo porte=F1o!

Shaun

juanka wrote:
> Hi Shaun and all:
>
> Thanks to notice that John toke my comment in a wrong way. This give me
> the chance to point some thing:
> It seems John after visiting just part of Argentina many years ago,
> feels he is the only who knows the country.
> Even on places where he never stayed.
> I'm a local well travelled in my and other countries, and with 15 years
> experience helping foreign travelers in Argentina.
> I read his comments and sometime I was near to post something about his
> wrong info. But I didn't because I consider doesn't make sense to lose
> my time in discussions.
> It's a pity he felt challeged just because I point something about his
> message. Newsgroups are just for this: to write and re-write opinions.
> And posts will be here in the newsgroups for many years, so info must
> be useful at any time.
> John stayed here many time ago and the world is in moving...
> No hard fellings for the wrong way he read my post.
> I consider closed this topic. Lets go to the main subject:
> ----------------
> ABOUT TREN DE LAS NUBES
> =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
> It toke me just 1 minute to call to the Tourism Secretary to know the
> real situation. No need to go to Casa de Salta or similar.
>
> The touristic train is not running now, but every week a cargo train
> with some places for passengers is runnig normally. The touristic train
> was so expensive that I always reccomend to my guests to take the
> other. This train takes 1 day to go, and 1 day to return.
>
> And More: If the touristic train is runnig at the time you can take a
> bus till Campo Quijano (that is the 3th train station). From there, the
> ticket will be very cheap because they consider you as a local and not
> a foreign tourist.
>
> And every time, if what you want to see is the traject and not the
> train itself, you can take a bus which follow the same route of the
> train, and reach the small towns in the top of the Andes mountains,
> near the limit with Chile.
>
> In my opinion, there are better places to visit in a short trip to
> Salta. Valles Calchaquies is my favorite. Mainly because in Cafayate,
> an small and lovely town, you can enjoy the magnificent landscape and
> the sunset, drinkig the excelent wiine made locally in Bodega La Rosa
> (the winery).
>
> Near there, crossing to Jujuy, it begins the way "Quebrada de
> Humahuaca". As the southern part of the Inca way, you will visit places
> where still live the souls of a many centuries ago missing
> civilization.
>
> At least but not at last:
> If anyone needs update info about Argentina, Uruguay and South of
> Brasil fell free to write me.
> Mainly if you info about Buenos Aires or cheap accommodation in BA in a
> gusthouse.
>
> Saludos/Regards and have a nice trip
> Juan Carlos
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>
> shaunhaines1978@gmail.com wrote:
> > John Cisarik wrote:
> > > Most of the Argentina's provinces maintain their own individual touri=
st
> > > offices in Buenos Aires.
> > >
> > > A friend in Buenos Aires said that he would check at the Salta tourist
> > > office in the capital to see whether the Train to the Clouds is runni=
ng or
> > > not (I had said in a recent post that it was not running, but an Arge=
ntine
> > > challenged my statement).
> ...........
> >
> > Heh...yeah, the train's not running. And that challenge seemed a
> > little aggressive, no? Maybe it was just a question of translation.
> >=20
> > Shaun