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Subject: Re: Brazil starts fingerprinting and taking photos of US visitors Posted on: Thu, 8 Jan 2004 00:36:58 +0000 (UTC)

maybe yes or maybe not ... about LULA responsability about it:>
>This regulation was imposed by a Judge. Lula has absolutely nothing
> to do
> > > with it.

-There are suspections that LULA agreed with: CIA imposed to that
Judge, to make that ORDER extended to all Brazil ports/airports.
-City Rio de Janeiro entered an invitation to Federal Brazil STF
Supreme Court to make without effect that Goias Federal Judge ORDER;
but * Brazil Minister External Relations * said todayJan/7 : they will
try to negociate with WHITE HOUSE-USA : how to handle of
that ORDER from Brazil-Goias-Federal-Judge. hehehe, and none
Brazil Minister said about the invitation of City Rio de Janeiro
to cancel that ORDER. !!!!

hehehe, maybe yes, maybe not.... about LULA agree or not...

"Bruno Carneiro da Cunha" wrote in message news:...
> "David" wrote in message
> news:4f24a407.0401060213.12dc1347@posting.google.com...
> > >
> > > 1) This regulation was imposed by a Judge. Lula has absolutely nothing
> to do
> > > with it.
> >
> > I never said Lula passed this new Law. I can read and I know it was
> > some Anti-American Federal Judge. If Lula wanted to, he could have
> > squashed this new Federal regulation...
>
> It's not up to him, specifically, because in the Brazilian system he cannot
> just overrule the sentence of a federal judge. The branch of the executive
> responsible for this is however currently studying the best way to appeal
> against the decision before the supreme federal court. At any rate the final
> decision will be in the hands of the judiciary branch and not the executive.
>
> > > 2) They may be stupid and reactionary, but they are also being
> reciprocal.
> > > When Canada and Russia begins singling out Brazilians as potential
> > > terrorists, Brazil will begin singling out Canadians and Russians, not
> > > before. At any rate, by applying this to U.S. citizens, Brazil is
> > > effectively targeting more than 80% of the tourists from countries that
> > > require a visa from Brazilian citizens.
> >
> > The USA did not single out Brazilians as terrorists. They require ALL
> > visitors needing tourist visas to go through the new procedure, not
> > only Brazilians.
>
> So, they single out *every* visitor (from outside Europe and friendly
> states) as a potential terrorist, or so the lore tells us. It is ironic how
> this new cell of terrorist threats are coming from the UK, no? On the other
> hand, just think of the biggest perceived threat that a third-world country
> citizen trying to enter the U S. poses to the average American to understand
> why they are taking these measures. A terrorist group that is organized
> enough will not even try to enter the U.S. with a third-world country
> passport, and the department of homeland security knows that.
>
> > > 4) Castro is a very, very OLD friend of Lula... The new friends are
> Gaddhafi
> > > and al Ashad. :-)
> >
> > Yes, all the Latin world communists stick together... Lula does not
> > see that Brazil needs the USA a lot more than they need Cuba.
>
> Lula isn't a communist anymore, as the way he's running Brazil's internal
> economics can atest. I've actually came to doubt he ever was. If anything
> his motivations about external policy are more in the line of a union
> leader's than an actual chief of state. For him all there are reduce to
> bosses (G-7) vs. employees (G-22 or whatever). And I will bet it will take
> more time than his term to realise otherwise.
>
> B.
> P.S.: to the spammers out there: you made it. You killed my e-mail address.
> Thank you very much.