Sylvia Else wrote in
news:41818c21$0$22601$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au:
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> John Mazor wrote:
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>> "Sylvia Else" wrote in message
>> news:4180be76$0$32593$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au...
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>>>Pooh Bear wrote:
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>>>>John Mazor wrote:
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>>>>>"OtisWinslow" wrote in message
>>>>>news:aTMfd.3429056$ic1.349493@news.easynews.com...
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>>>>>>I thought the Captain was in charge of making sure the
>>>>>>aircraft was operated safely. Why the hell didn't he intervene
>>>>>>and stop the excessive movement? He just sat there
>>>>>>and watched knowing that it was the wrong action to
>>>>>>take? Sure points the finger at Airbus and AA's training program.
>>>>>
>>>>>Perhaps, but it also reflects the prevailing but erroneous
>>>>>impression
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>> among
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>>>>>airline pilots that you can't break the airplane with control
>>>>>inputs
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>> below
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>>>>>maneuvering speed. This was not limited to Airbus products.
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>>>>Which then begs the question why were airline pilots erroneously
>>>>under
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>> that
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>>>>impression ?
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>>>It was a bizarre notion anyway. Fly your airliner below maneuvering
>>>speed. Apply full right aileron, and wait.
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>>>I guarantee you'll have a broken plane.
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>> Cute - ditto for full forward yoke 100' AGL - but irrelevant.
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>> Forget the liability dogfight, the most troublesome aspect of this
>> accident is how long-standing engineers' knowledge that a rudder
>> wig-wag could break the tail on an airplane never got disseminated
>> down to the people who actually fly the damn things.
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> It's probably not just a problem in aviation. There are things that
> seem so blindingly obvious to engineers that it's difficult for them
> to conceive the notion that a non-engineer might not recognise the
> truth.
>
> So, of all the things that the engineers consider obvious, how are
> they to enumerate those that won't be obvious to non-engineers?
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> Babbage was reputedly asked whether his calculating engine would give
> the correct answers even if given the wrong input. He's quoted as
> expressing bemusement at the kind of thinking that could lead to such
> a question.
>
> Forums like this one may help -
Good christ, you really are a fjuking half wit
Bertie |