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"Robert Cote" wrote in message
news:tsch-ECB17C.11490229012005@news3.news.adelphia.net...
> In article <10vnh8gc9gaap30@corp.supernews.com>,
> "Baxter" wrote:
> > "Robert Cote" wrote in message
> > news:tsch-C15E09.06363129012005@news.isp.giganews.com...
> > > In article
> > >
> > > Okay, I'll bite. Which transit agencies say that they save fuel and
> > > what do they base this upon? Based on recent trends it will soon be
> > > reported that transit -generates- fuel. This on the last three years
of
> > > APTA accounting practices. They and their transit energy reported
> > > figures cannot be trusted any longer. After 30 years of declining
> > > energy efficiency and the last 19 years where their own reports showed
> > > transit buses getting lower passenger mile fuel efficiency than autos
> > > their data has reversed that trend and suddenly transit buses have
> > > started getting 24% better fuel economy than three years ago. 24% in
> > > three years. That's replacing half the fleet with twice as efficient
> > > technology. Yeah right, what's really happening is they are tired of
> > > the embarrassment and have embarked on a multiyear accounting scam.
> >
> > TriMet provided 232,925,328 passenger-miles of -bus- service FY04, and
uses
> > about 6,000,000 gallons of diesel. That works out to 38 passenger-miles
per
> > gallon. Considerably better than the average URBAN auto. (no, don't
give us
> > that bull-crap about autos having 1.57 occupancy in an URBAN setting.)
>
> Tri-Met actually reports much much higher results:
>
> http://tri-met.org/promotions/fuelefficiency.htm
>
> Or as they say themselves: "4.81 miles per gallon unprecedented in the
> transit business!" Unprecedented indeed. With their 10.8 passenger
> miles per revenue vehicle mile that's 52 passenger mile per gallon.
So then you agree that Conklin is flat-out wrong when he says:
"Neither transit buses nor transit trains save fuel in the USA. That has
long been established."?
And you also admit that you're wrong in calling it an "accounting scam"?
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