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Subject: Re: Tipping in the US (at a restaurant)? Posted on: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 20:37:34 +0000 (UTC)


Dave Smith wrote:
> "oconnell@slr.orl.lmco.com" wrote:
>
> > > In most other businesses, the remuneration of the staff is the
direct
> > > responsibility of the employer.
> >
> > And here we have the opporunity to provide a "living wage"
directly,
> > with no middle man so to speak, and everyone wants to complain
about
> > it.
>
> Let me know when you are prepared to do the same for all your other
> purchases.

Well, depending upon what you mean....

Tips go to more than just servers. But tips are really most
appropriate
for the "service" industry. But I've been known to slip tips
to delivery folks, plumbers, etc. There are certain industries where
it would be in appropriate, mostly those with potential corruption
issues (stock brokers, etc).

[snip]
> > > For some of those customers,
> > > the scale starts very low. I know several guys who wouldn't tip
if
> > their
> > > lives depended on it.
> >
> > And it is this tendency to "gas and go" so to speak that has
> > restauranteurs enforcing mandatory service fees on groups larger
than
> > XX.
>
> The people I am thinking of would be reluctant to pay a tip at the
best of
> times, but given the chance to hide in a crowd they see a way to
escape
> paying a tip and not have to face the server.

Which isn't all that much different from the guy that thinks
that "pay at the pump" is an opportunity to gas and go.

> From my experience I would
> suggest that more than half the people would undertip in a group
> situation. When I used to organize the Christmas Eve luncheon at
work I
> always suggested to the waitresses that it would be in their best
interests
> to provide individual bills.

There is a horrible tendency to "round down" which in a group of 20,
can quickly add up. Alternately though, I was "stuck" with far too
large tip once, for a server crew that most certainly did not
deserve it. Alternately, neither did I, but the vast majority of
the gang had already left. I gave it to the intern in the crowd.