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Subject: Re: South western USA (CA, UT, AR) landscapes ? Posted on: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 23:13:16 GMT


"Hatunen" wrote in message
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> On Mon, 22 Jan 2007 22:31:22 GMT, "Lawrence Akutagawa"
> wrote:
>
>>
>>"Hatunen" wrote in message
>>news:h3aar2t7udfbeam7l7u9rugtnnsvb4ths5@4ax.com...
>>> On Mon, 22 Jan 2007 04:33:51 GMT, "Lawrence Akutagawa"
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>15. Drive up hwy 101 all the way to Berkeley (so that's how Dustin
>>>>Hoffman
>>>>did it in *The Graduate* ! )
>>>
>>> Be sure to drive the wrong way on the Bay Bridge like Hoffman
>>> did, while you're at it.
>>>
>>> But I don't recollect that US-101 is indiacted in the film as
>>> going to Berkeley.
>>
>>Well....as I recall, as he travels from southern California to Berkeley,
>>he
>>goes through the (northbound) 101 tunnel (no southbound tunnel) near
>>Goleta
>
> It's the Gaviota tunnel.
>
>>and bingo - next thing you know - is heading across the SF Oakland Bay
>>Bridge upper deck to Berkeley!
>
> That doesn't bother me. At that time the simplest way to Berkely
> would have been north on US-101 and then across the Bay Bridge
> once in San Francisco.


hmmm...I'd have taken 101 north to San Jose, where I'd take 17 north (no 880
then) to Berkeley.

1. Any one side of a triangle is shorter than navigating over the other two
sides.
2. Back then, a toll was taken in both directions of the bridge, unlike the
current one direction toll.
3. No I280 extension in SF back then, such that you'd have to navigate the
101/80 interchange and traffic.

>>In fact, no other tunnel that I know of
>>between LA county and the SF Bay Area on any of the major roads - I5, 101,
>>99, and 1. There are overpasses and underpasses aplenty, though.
>>
>>The point here being that if you can logically drive up hwy 395 all the
>>way
>>to Lake Tahoe, then by the same logic you can drive up hwy 101 all the way
>>to Berkeley. Same difference.

> Except the film never claims you can drive up US-101 to Berkeley.

Agreed - I'm just reinforcing the logic that says that you can drive up 395
all the way up to Lake Tahoe...that's all.

>
> Using the top deck of the Bay Bridge to get to Berkeley is pretty
> stupid, though, but using the bottom deck wouldn't have
> photographed so nicely.

I think they call that artistic license at work.