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Re: Apple CEO Jobs attacks teacher unions Posted on: Tue, 20 Feb 2007 20:15:16 -0800

sharx35 wrote:
> "Larry (Scratch)" wrote in message
> news:YYWdnfkDubD8lUbYnZ2dnUVZ_oipnZ2d@comcast.com...
>> sharx35 wrote:
>>> "Dennis P. Harris" wrote in message
>>> news:vq6it2d6mmlvigh6do6i0shj3qp83k75sa@4ax.com...
>>>> On Sun, 18 Feb 2007 17:01:12 -0800 in rec.travel.usa-canada,
>>>> "Larry (Scratch)" wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Apple Inc. CEO Steve Jobs lambasted teacher unions today,
>>>>> claiming no amount of technology in the classroom would improve public
>>>>> schools until principals could fire bad teachers.
>>>> jobs doesn't know diddly about education, except to sell
>>>> computers to schools.
>>>>
>>>> in my observation, when kids aren't learning, about 95% of the
>>>> time it's NOT due to the teacher. the causes i observed most
>>>> often were
>>>>
>>>> 1. parents are not doing *their* duty by having the kids at
>>>> school on time, fully fed, and ready to learn, which means having
>>>> kids that are disciplined and pay attention, so teachers can
>>>> teach instead of spending all their time dealing with behavior
>>>> problems.
>>>>
>>>> 2. parents don't read with their kids, help them with homework,
>>>> attend parent conferences, or take any interest in their children
>>>> or their education. if no one cares, why should the kids?
>>>>
>>>> 3. when kids have problems, parents blame it on anyone other
>>>> than themselves or the child. they try to get them off the hook,
>>>> claim that their child would never do (whatever the problem
>>>> behavior is), and if he does, it's not the kid's or the parents'
>>>> fault.
>>>>
>>>> 4. the kids have disabilities or mental health or emotional
>>>> problems, and are not adequately supported/treated by parents,
>>>> the school system, or the health care system. let's face it,
>>>> kids born with fetal alcohol syndrome or crack babies are not
>>>> going to be able to keep up with the normal and bright kids, but
>>>> the school system and bu$h's idiotic unfunded "no child left
>>>> behind" insists that these kids should be able to learn as well
>>>> as kids without disabilities.
>>>>
>>>> steve jobs should try teaching those kids, like most teachers
>>>> have to do every day, and see if he can keep the class in order
>>>> and focused on the work at hand. i'll bet that if he did, he's
>>>> be running screaming out of the classroom before the day was
>>>> over.
>>>>
>>>> i am not a teacher, not married to one, don't have any as
>>>> relatives or close friends. this is just my opinion based on
>>>> observing my local school system since i was in kindergarten.
>>>>
>>> Excellent post. Parents enjoy the orgasm but expect the rest of the world
>>> to raise and educate THEIR crotch fruit.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> No, not actually some of us prefer to take the dollars the govt is paying
>> per child and use it to enter them in Private or home school yet we are
>> meeting with a lot of resistance. If the failed govt experiment known as
>> pubic screwls was so great, why the resistance? BECAUSE IT IS NOT and
>> parents recognize this and it is the kids that end of suffering.
>>
>> (Actually I am a grandpa and no longer have my kids in these dens of moral
>> morass)
>
> I fully support the concept of the money following the child vis a vis home
> schooling, charter schooling, private schooling, etc. Parents should have
> those options with their educational tax money. Meanwhile those of us
> without children should NOT have to pay educational taxes. Of course, there
> shouldn't even BE *separate* educational taxes--education should be FULLY
> funded, to the Bachelor of Arts level, through general taxation.
>


If it was, perhaps we could slow down the loss of jobs to around the
world. Look how many holidays there are in a child's school year. Not
counting teachers grading days or some other garbage day off. Sad thing
is the kids get are the ones that suffer and those are the kids that
some day will be the politicians, doctors and educators of the future. Sad.



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