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Subject: Re: Immigration Patrols On Domestic Amtrak Posted on: Mon, 23 Jul 2007 00:39:49 +0000 (UTC)

On Jul 22, 7:36 pm, sechumlib wrote:
> Let's see. You've stated numerous times that you are not a US citizen.
> I gather you don't even live in the US, though you like to travel here
> at will. Moreover, you're not a native-born Canadian but have become a
> Canadian citizen. Please feel free to correct any of these statements
> that is incorrect.

Yes, I think you got it down pat. I've travelled to the US around 10
times, probably spent about 1 year of my life in the US over the past
25 years.

> Then what business do you have raising "hypothetical" questions about
> US border-crossing law, and addressing me as though I (a native-born US
> citizen) were the ignoramus when I react to them as the intellectual
> nullities they seem to be? And why, now that I think of it, should I
> even bother to read your "hypotheticals" about US border crossing law,
> let alone try to deal with them in a serious way?

It was a hypothetical situation about a person on the Greyhound being
a US Citizen but admitting they were born outside the US. I brought
this up because my one encounter with Border Patrol (on a bus), they
did NOT ask for citizenship, they asked where people were born. Then
when I answered (in my case stating where I was born was my
citizenship), they wanted immigration documents, which is fair of them
to ask me. So my what if applies to someone who had naturalized being
asked for those, because they weren't born in the US. I just wanted an
answer, not a debate about whether or not I should be asking a
hypothetical question.

> If you want real advice on your "hypothetical", perhaps you should
> consult a US immigration attorney rather than scattering random
> speculations on a newsgroup for laypersons to try to deal with

If you didn't want to reply, you needn't. I don't need an attorney to
answer a musing, the answer has no impact on me one way or another,
it's just a point of view that Border Patrol people are more concerned
about where someone is born than their citizenship. However, from what
I read, they no longer ask in that manner... or maybe at the location
where they boarded our bus they were ignorant to the fact people born
outside the US may have moved to the US and legally naturalized.

S.

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