"Lawrence Akutagawa" wrote in message
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>> On Dec 23, 2:29 pm, "Lawrence Akutagawa"
>> wrote:
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>>> > I get the phone numbers out of the internet business to business
>>> > listings, and call management directly, for one. I don't even waste
>>> > my time trying to get to the people I need. I call them directly.
>>>
>>> > Secondly, I deal almost exclusively with locally owned business, where
>>> > it is never a problem walking in and speaking to a manager/owner.
>>> > Spending your money close to home, is the best way to insure that you
>>> > can get follow up and have problems taken care of when needed.
>>>
>>> > Thirdly, I have a contact in the MA Attorney Generals office, who
>>> > sends out faxes and written correspondance for me on official
>>> > letterhead. That gets the needed result, every time. No questions
>>> > asked. My free replacement of a $1500 dollar dlp projector which by
>>> > all means, I broke, is all I need to know that my methods are
>>> > effective.
>>>
>>> Chuckie, Chuckie, Chuckie - it's Bank of America and the like we're
>>> talking
>>> about. dinna change the subject at hand, please. So once again - how
>>> did
>>> you deal with BofA vis a vis this ATM scenario under discussion? Who
>>> was
>>> the manager whom you contacted and what did you say? I must say that
>>> the
>>> overall tenor and direction of your statements have changed markedly
>>> with
>>> this post of yours. It's like we're going into red herring and non
>>> sequitur
>>> land - the Keith Martin approach to discussion.
>>>
>>> I doubt seriously if most would dub BofA to be a "locally owned
>>> business."
>>> (see what I mean about the old Keith Martin?) "Spending your money
>>> close to
>>> home, is the best way to insure that you can get follow up and have
>>> problems
>>> taken care of when needed" - ummm...isn't the subject at hand getting
>>> information on which ATMs in Mexico will accept a Bank of America card?
>>> (more Keith Martin - yet another non sequitur!)
>>>
>>> And please share with us your wondrous skill at figuring out from those
>>> "internet business to business listings" exactly and precisely how you
>>> determine in an organization like BofA that specific person with the
>>> requisite knowledge to answer that question you have. In fact, do
>>> explain
>>> to us from the main Bank of America "internet business to business
>>> listings"
>>> link you use how you go about pinpointing that person you call directly
>>> vis
>>> a vis which Mexican ATMs accept a Bank of America card. I for one am
>>> looking forward to learning something here, my luck with contacting
>>> directly
>>> a person with the requisite knowledge in an organization like BofA being
>>> so
>>> god awfully bad. And step by step, if you don't mind...me being
>>> somewhat
>>> slow on the uptake. Start with the main Google search page, please.
>>>
>>> So the MA Attorney Generals office acts on your behalf to get you
>>> answers to
>>> your questions at places like BofA? Unfortunately most of us hoi
>>> polloi, I
>>> fear, do not have the luxury of getting our answers from concerns like
>>> BofA
>>> in that fashion. I do understand, however, that BofA getting a
>>> communication from the MA Attorney Generals office on official
>>> letterhead
>>> vis a vis a question you have on BofA's product does get BofA's
>>> attention...I'll give you that much. I can just see it - "Hey John. I
>>> need
>>> to know on which ATMs in Mexico I can use my Bank of American card.
>>> Write
>>> the bank a letter on that official MA Attorney General letterhead, will
>>> you?" Some people have all the luck!
>>
>> I dont deal with bank of america, because I would never put my money
>> anywhere near them. I was simply stating that you are an idiot for
>> spending several minutes on the phone demanding the right person speak
>> with you, simply to avoid paying an atm fee. Got it?
>>
>> I can get any public phone number for any business. It isnt hard to
>> do. You just need to be a member of a particular merchant or vendor
>> group.
>
> non sequiturs and red herrings galore! Words, words, and yet more
> words...but nary a smidgen of good, solid, useful information as per the
> subject at hand. The best I can tease out of all these words, words, and
> yet more words from Chuckie is that the original poster, "xz"
> , to have his question answered by the Bank of
> America needs either "to be a member of a particular merchant or vendor
> group" or have a contact in the state Attorney General office. Doing the
> former still begs the question of what number to call to have the specific
> question answered from among all those numbers in the Bank of America
> listing, Chuckie not giving us the requested step by step approach. Maybe
> you just start at the top of that list of numbers and work your way down?
> Not exactly calling the right person directly, but Chuckie being mum on
> the subject...better than nothing. Doing the latter - having the state
> Attorney General office submit the question to Bank of America on one's
> behalf - raises some interesting questions on the use of public funds for
> personal use. And if the original poster cannot do either, well...then
> Chuckie is not of much help with the subject at hand, is he?
Well, it seems as though Chuckie has dropped out of this discussion. And
that's really too bad because after mulling over my last post, I've thought
of how to validate his two approaches to getting from the Bank of America
the information on which Mexican ATMs accept Bank of America cards. (I am
disregarding his third approach because it is clearly a non sequitur, the
Bank of America on the one hand not being what most call a "locally owned
business" and Mexico on the other hand really not being "close to home.")
The first uses his having "to be a member of a particular merchant or vendor
group." He obviously is such a member, him saying on the one hand - "I can
get any public phone number for any business. It isnt hard to do. You just
need to be a member of a particular merchant or vendor group." and on the
other hand - "I get the phone numbers out of the internet business to
business listings, and call management directly, for one. I don't even
waste my time trying to get to the people I need. I call them directly."
So the challenge to Chuckie is simple - he having the access he has, he
simply obtain and share with us one phone number at Bank of America where
the person answering the phone can state what Mexican ATMs accept Bank of
America cards. The requisite criteria is no more than that - the person
picking the phone be able to supply the answer without transfering the call
to someone else within the Bank of America organization or putting the
caller on hold while some other person comes to the phone. This criteria, I
believe, logically is consistent with Chuckie's statement: "I don't even
waste my time trying to get to the people I need. I call them directly."
Once Chuckie shares this one phone number with us here, I'll make the call
on Wednesday...that should give Chuckie enough time to consult his business
listings and determine however he does (he not willing to share with us
exactly how he does) that one number to call. The fact that Chuckie has no
previous dealings with BofA lends much more credence to his approach in that
he clearly has no previous knowledge whatever as to whom in BofA to call for
this information. Of course, the phone number Chuckie supplies can be
easily enough verified to be a public Bank of America phone number using
resources on the net.
The second references his use of the MA Attorney General's office to obtain
the needed information. According to http://tinyurl.com/3ykjlt at the
Massachussetts Attorney General's website, "General questions or comments:
To send questions or comments to the Attorney General's Office that are not
consumer complaints, please send an email to: ago@state.ma.us ." So I'll
send an email to the indicated email address referencing this discussion
between Chuckie and myself and asking for clarification as to a member of
the public requesting that the MA Attorney General's office on its official
letterhead ask the Bank of America on behalf of said member of the public
what Mexican ATMs accept the Bank of America card.
Now if Chuckie is up for this challenge, he need only to share with us that
one phone number. Once he does that, I'll take care of the rest and report
back here what results I get. You know, I just might learn something new
out of all this that will help me get information from companies like the
Bank of America!
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