Well, allegedly, in article <2008041118592816807-fire@willcom>, Gridley wrote:
>
> At the Air Train you will have to buy a $5 fare that is the same as a
> MetroCard. In the same machine you can buy a Fun Pass and you can use
> a credit card if you like.
Sounds easy. We'll be sure to get at least two $5 fare for both directions.
(Not going to take the express bus back since we have more flexibility
with the train arrangements.)
> Tke the E train to 42 Street at 8th Avenue. It is always an express
> (for your purposes). This takes longer than the LIRR but the walk from
> Penn Station would eat up most of the gained time and not present you
> with any great views. For all intents and purposes the E train stop at
> 42 Street is Times Square. You will walk one block east to get to
> Broadway & 42 St, the heart of TS.
Good point - I originally hadn't realized the LIRR was separate from the
subway. After much study and reading, I'm more clued in now. How's the
views from the LIRR riding from Jamaica into midtown Manhattan compared
to the same on the subway?
> To get to the Cloisters go back to the train station at 8th Ave and
> take an uptown A train to 190 Street. This is the entrance to Fort
> Tryon Park. You can walk through the park to the Cloisters but if you
> take an M4 bus (right at the subway exit) it will run you right to the
> Cloisters entrance. A cab will take much longer fighting traffic so I
> wouldn't even consider it.
M4 bus sounds nice. The one time I went to the Cloisters about 15 years
ago, took a bus from waaaay downtown that went to 190th Street or so.
That worked, but it took every single stop so it took about 2.5 hours.
Ever since then, I've remembered the subway is much faster to 190th St. :)
But the M4 bus to the museum itself sounds like a great idea and a short
trip. I'm used to the occasional bus ride; in fact, the ride from
Washington, D.C.'s Union Station to my home in the NE was on a D4 bus
route. :-)
The one time a friend and I used the subway on my own in NYC about 10
years ago, we got hopelessly lost because we thought it was as simple as
the typical subway system in most places. Kindness of strangers at
various points bailed us out -- folks noticed we were obviously puzzled
and spoke to us without prompting. Very nice!!
But ever since then, vowed to have a MUCH better understanding of the
system. :) I think I'm much more clued in now so looking forward to it.
Don't want to have to pester people, and want to make better choices,
especially when I have only a day in town.
> A Fun Pass can't be used on the same bus line, or at the same subway
> station, until 18 minutes has elapsed. The Fun Pass also expires at
Ah, good point. Duly noted, thanks.
> 3am the following day so maybe you can give it to someone when you are
> finished.
Ooh, that's a great idea we hadn't considered!
> Depending on how many are in your party you may want to take a cab back
> to JFK. The standard rate is $45 plus tips and toll so figure on a
> total of about $60, more if you are generous. For four people that is
> a bargain.
That's true. For party of 2, we'll probably stick to walking / subway /
bus for getting around Manhattan. Should be fine.
Thanks again for the tips!! |