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Subject: Re: Vancouver transit riders tasered for not paying fares Posted on: Sat, 19 Apr 2008 10:56:49 EST

chasseur wrote:
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>> Patriot Games wrote:
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> http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20080415.wbc-transit16/BNStory/National/home
>>>
>>> Vancouver transit riders tasered for not paying fares
>>> ROD MICKLEBURGH
>>>
>>> From Wednesday's Globe and Mail
>>>
>>> April 16, 2008 at 5:31 AM EDT
>>>
>>> VANCOUVER - The country's only armed transit police have been tasering
>>> passengers who try to avoid paying fares.
>>>
>>> According to documents provided in response to a Freedom of Information
>>> request, police patrolling public transit in the Metro Vancouver area
>>> have used tasers 10 times in the past 18 months, including five
>>> occasions when victims had been accosted for riding free.
>>>
>>> In one incident, a non-paying passenger was tasered after he held onto a
>>> railing on the SkyTrain platform and refused to let go.
>>>
>>> "After several warnings to the subject to stop resisting arrest and the
>>> subject failing to comply with the officers' commands, the taser was
>>> deployed and the subject was taken into control," said the report
>>> provided by TransLink, the region's transit authority.
>>>
>>> An internal review of the incident concluded that the action taken by
>>> transit police officers complied with the force's policy and was within
>>> guidelines "set out in the National Use of Force Model," the report
> said.
>>> On another occasion, a passenger was tasered when he fled from police
>>> who found him without a payment receipt during a "fare blitz." This
>>> time, however, the passenger got away because, as recounted in the
>>> report, "the Taser was ineffective due to the subject's clothing and
>>> [he] escaped the custody of the officers."
>>>
>>> Politicians and civil-liberties activists alike decried the use of
>>> tasers on individuals who were attempting merely to avoid paying a fine
>>> for not buying a ticket to ride.
>>>
>>> "I think it's absolutely uncalled for, absolutely reprehensible, and the
>>> police should not be doing that," federal Liberal public safety critic
>>> Ujjal Dosanjh said in Ottawa yesterday.
>>>
>>> On the face of it, the use of tasers by transit police here is far
>>> outside guidelines that say they should be used only if someone is
>>> suicidal, violent or about to injure himself or someone else, Mr.
>>> Dosanjh said.
>>>
>>> "Their current use is absolutely inappropriate," he said, adding that
>>> the latest revelations, coming after a storm of recent controversy over
>>> taser use by regular police forces across the country, have brought him
>>> close to calling for a moratorium on the powerful stun guns.
>>>
>>> "This is the kind of example that would lead people like me, who have so
>>> far resisted asking for a moratorium, to actually call for that," he
> said.
>>> Murray Mollard of the B.C. Civil Liberties Association, which supports a
>>> moratorium, said he was shocked by the news of transit passengers being
>>> tasered.
>>>
>>> "To apply a taser on someone fleeing the scene while trying to evade a
>>> fine is, quite frankly, an outrageous abuse of this weapon," Mr. Mollard
>>> said.
>>>
>>> "Do we really need police officers with guns and tasers using them in
>>> the context of fare evasion? I don't think so. This really is very hard
>>> to believe."
>>>
>>> But he stopped short of blaming the police. "They do what police do," he
>>> said. Instead, he pinned the fault on cabinet ministers responsible for
>>> the police who refuse to restrict taser use.
>>>
>>> In a move that sparked heated debate in the province, the government
>>> gave the green light for transit cops to carry weapons 2½ years ago.
>>> There are about 125 officers on the transit force.
>>>
>>> The region's popular, elevated SkyTrain system operates on a partial
>>> honour system, without turnstiles. However, riders caught without a
>>> ticket are subject to heavy fines, as high as $175. Officers ask
>>> passengers at random for proof of payment.
>>>
>>> Yesterday, the head of the RCMP admitted the police force did not do a
>>> good job making information public about taser use, and vowed that
>>> changes will be made.
>>>
>>> "Frankly we did not handle this matter very well," Commissioner William
>>> Elliott told the Canadian Club of Ottawa. "We should not have needed two
>>> kicks at the can. We must learn from that and do better."
>>>
>>> The taser controversy will be in the spotlight again today - the mother
>>> of Robert Dziekanski, the Polish immigrant who died after being tasered
>>> by the RCMP last year at Vancouver International Airport, is expected to
>>> testify before a parliamentary committee in Ottawa.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> WTF is this tazering business ??
>>
>> America is the land of gun owners , SHOOT THE FARE DODGING SCUM dont
>> tazer them , what is this ? nanny state going softly again ??
>
>
> Vancouver is in the province of British Columbia in Canada.
>
> Chasseur
> Canada
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>

Canadians , the other yanks :)

I met Canadians who are born in New York , live in New york , but travel
as Canadians ... they get less shit that way

unfortunately , they are giving Canadians a seriously bad bad name

Sorry to have mixed you guys up :)