Shadow wrote:
> On Thu, 15 May 2008 09:25:43 GMT, Greg Carr
> wrote:
>
> :The old dude did pull a knife and threaten staff who couldn't restrain
> :him. He is also an ex-prison guard who admits he was delusional at the
> :time and gets delusional when he has trouble breathing.
>
> How did he get the knife in the first place? That was a very small
> pocket-knife.
He pulled the pocket knife out of his pocket.
> As recent as a few decades ago, a cop would be
> chastized by his collegues and superiors if he couldnt handle a
> situation where someone who had a knife,
Yes, and back in those good old days cops were all big and tough and might
even administer a little street justice but beating the snot out of
suspects and save the courts a lot of time. You should note that the
police were called by the nursing staff who could not disarm him and felt
threatened..
> never mind an old man with a
> tiny knife lying in a hospital bed drugged up recovering from heart
> surgery.
Bullshit. Get your factoids straight. He was not recovering from heart
surgery. He had had bypass surgery some time before. He was in the
hospital because he had pneumonia and was having trouble breathing and he
said the breathing problem sometimes makes him delusional. The man is an
ex jail guard, delusional and armed with a knife.
> In fact, it was the norm to subdue someone, say, with a
> large axe all by ONEself without the use of brute force if they
> couldn't get the person to drop the knife through dialgoue. Of
> course, all this took some effort, patience, and a bit of time. But
> everyone is in such a hurry these days, they lack patience and react
> on impulse.
Would you have been happier if they had strong-armed the guy and physically
fought with him to disarm him? If they had broken a bone or dislocated a
limb in the struggle you would be whining about that. The man was zapped
with a taser, which did him no harm, he was disarmed and then given life
saving medical procedures .that had been withheld until he was disarmed.
The taser did not kill him. He didn't fall and get hurt after being zapped.
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